This starting point is intended to be more hands on then line-by-line example. I find I learn better when I have something that already works, that way I can tweak it and if I goof it up. I just reload it. This starting point was built in Ultradev 4, using the ASP 2.0 server model and VB scripting Language, with some hand coding, that I will walk you through. see site for more details. http://udextensions... Wayne Lambright :: blob :: tutorial :: wayne :: lambright :: web :: authoring :: web :: design :: utilities :: blobtutorial :: Blob Tutorial